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Title: LED lights
Post by: billy on March 15, 2012, 01:55:19 am
I purchased two led light bars, good price and they work, BUT no instructions on how to wire. The bar has 3wires, the oem lights have 3wire. Dose anyone know how to connect them to the oem tail lights? I know they work, the brown to ground, green w/yellow to + but what about the third wire?
Title: Re: LED lights
Post by: Bob Mahon on March 15, 2012, 06:43:56 am
Billy,
What are the 3 colors?
I've installed many LED lights and will tell you that generally, the Brown wire is for the tail/running lights, red for brake and white for ground.
You can try the lights by touching the leads to the battery.
Title: Re: LED lights
Post by: billy on March 15, 2012, 11:39:20 am
There are 3 wires, Brown, Green with Yellow stripe and White with Red stripe. I “tested” the light bar, white to ground, green white with yellow to + and they both work. I tested; I think most all-different configurations these two were what worked. I noticed on the taillights there are 3 wires BUT both tail and brake are together, there is no separate turn signal.  tymote
Title: Re: LED lights
Post by: Bob Mahon on March 15, 2012, 12:43:50 pm
The LEDs should illuminate at 2 different intensities; red for tail and bright red for brake/turn.
White is ground.

I've never seen that color combination on A/M lights but suspect the Green/Yellow (which are the standard colors of turn signal wires in a harness) are brighter and the White/Red are the tail.
Title: Re: LED lights
Post by: billy on March 15, 2012, 06:42:36 pm
As an amateur radio operator a friend and I were building a 1000-watt amplifier. After all was done I asked Jerry, “what now” his simple reply was, “plug it in and we’ll check for smoke” OK, after some trial and error I think I’ve figured it out?

RIG            TO         LED BAR LIGHT,
brown         black
white               white with red stripe
red               green with yellow stripe

This is a neat light you have running lights, then brake lights, then the turn signal which looks like it interrupts the brake light but still have the running lights? Make since???
Title: Re: LED lights
Post by: Bob Mahon on March 15, 2012, 06:53:37 pm
Sounds right.
As an Electrician in a former life, I am very familiar with the "Smoke Test".
Title: Re: LED lights
Post by: TomHanlon on March 16, 2012, 08:09:55 am
Billy can you post some pictures of the new led lights?
Title: Re: LED lights
Post by: billy on March 16, 2012, 01:08:21 pm
Yes when I am finished, all there is now a couple of holes!          (WH)
Title: Re: LED lights
Post by: billy on March 16, 2012, 10:25:23 pm
Can you see me now?????     Hate to drill holes,     they are mounted,     they work      and they are bright.
Title: Re: LED lights
Post by: Bob Mahon on March 17, 2012, 06:51:21 am
Billy,
Thank you for the photos. The new lights look great.  2o2
I've also been planning to do exactly that but haven't yet run the wires from the low lights to where you've placed them (I did that with our Alpine so they could be seen when towing the Edge).
Questions:
1.  Can you tell me how you ran the wires (did they drop straight down)?
2.  Did the 3rd brake light illuminate before you installed the new lights?
3.  Where did you buy the new lights?
Title: Re: LED lights
Post by: TomHanlon on March 17, 2012, 08:47:38 am
Billy those lights are awesome. 2o2

 I want to do the same but I have a few questions also.

1. I notice that pictures 3 and 4 both look like your running light are off, so I am guessing that you have the brake on. Why is picture 4 so much brighter than picture 3?

2 What do they look like with just the driving lights on?

3. Do the new lights blink with the turn signals? Is the turn signal flasher the stock flash or did you have to install a heavy duty flasher?

Thanks.

I hope Kermit see this tread and starts putting them on the new PCs as standard equipment.
Title: Re: LED lights
Post by: Bob Mahon on March 17, 2012, 09:22:26 am
Good catch, Tom.  2o2
I didn't notice the running/marker lights were'nt on.
I'd want the new lights to operate with the head/running/marker/signal lights and would install a flip-flop relay/alarm circuit to energize all lights when the ignition was on (like I did with the Alpine).
Title: Re: LED lights
Post by: billy on March 17, 2012, 12:35:01 pm
1.  Can you tell me how you ran the wires (did they drop straight down)?

Yes, it was a little difficult, BUT like old dad always said, “the difficult we do immediately, the impossible just takes a little longer” I must have tapped on the sides for an hour trying to make sure I would be able to get the wires all the way down without hitting an obstruction. I drilled a ¼ hole, photos to come; it’s raining, in the bottom plate to push a wire up. I have some #10 wire and low and behold I could feel the wire in both sections.

2.  Did the 3rd brake light illuminate before you installed the new lights?

All the lights work as do the OEM

3.  Where did you buy the new lights?

A fellow in Quartzsite, I’ll look for the receipt? There are lot’s of on line places
   http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-bin/store/index.cgi?action=DispPage&Page2Disp=%2Fspecs%2Fblb-r9.htm#photos


1. I notice that pictures 3 and 4 both look like your running light are off, so I am guessing that you have the brake on. Why is picture 4 so much brighter than picture 3?

#4 the flash on the camera was off.

2 What do they look like with just the driving lights on?  

Pictures to come, it's raining.

3. Do the new lights blink with the turn signals? Is the turn signal flasher the stock flash or did you have to install a heavy-duty flasher?

I have not yet purchased a H/D flasher but will as I plan on turn signals up front somewhere. I installed them on the class A. This time LED for the Cruiser.
Title: Re: LED lights
Post by: Bob Mahon on March 17, 2012, 01:49:24 pm
Thanks for the info, Billy. :)(:
BTW, you may not need a Heavy Duty flasher. LED lights don't draw much current but the lights may flash a little faster.

I'll be interested to see more phtos.
Title: Re: LED lights
Post by: billy on March 17, 2012, 03:24:14 pm
On the flasher I did consider a H/ D but thought they are led, then it occurred to me know Ford its margenable.
Title: Re: LED lights
Post by: billy on March 17, 2012, 04:49:33 pm
The two holes I drilled are behind the out side tail lights against the opposite wall and about 1” from the corners. On the drivers side it has to be done from underneath and on the passenger side from inside the storage. Be careful, as there are running light wires on both sides. The running lights (tail) on and with right blinker. The pictures just don’t do it justice.
Title: Re: LED lights
Post by: bobander on March 17, 2012, 07:27:00 pm
Billy,

Great idea, especially when towing a vehicle, my towed Jeep somewhat hides the brake/turn lights on the RV and the Jeep lights aren't that bright.  I will definitely be doing this mod.

Thanks for the photos and install descripition, your lights look perfect, are they 12 inches long?

You mentioned doing front turn signals, I assume you mean on the side in the front.  I think that would be a good idea to let those that are beside you know that you want to turn or change lanes.  What do you have in mind?  I see the new PCs have turn indicators on the side mirrors; but as a mod, I think putting a light on the side of the front fender would be easiest.

Bob (we met at Buckskin State Park Jan/2011)
Title: Re: LED lights
Post by: billy on March 17, 2012, 07:53:37 pm
I remember Bob, the lights are 15  1/2 ".  I am not sure  where the front will go. On the class a they were just behind the front wheel. It was on fiberglass. This time led's for sure but where?
Title: Re: LED lights
Post by: Bob Mahon on March 17, 2012, 08:12:14 pm
I plan to place my dual brightness Amber LEDs just ahead of the front wheel on the fender above the bumper, where it'll be easy to run the wires to from the front 'Park'/signals (I got those from TMI on eBay).

With all the DA drivers on the road these days you can't be too well lit (within reason).
Title: Re: LED lights
Post by: bobander on March 17, 2012, 11:53:33 pm
I plan to place my dual brightness Amber LEDs just ahead of the front wheel on the fender above the bumper, where it'll be easy to run the wires to from the front 'Park'/signals (I got those from TMI on eBay).

That is what I was thinking also.  Post pictures and info when you do it.
Title: Re: LED lights
Post by: billy on March 18, 2012, 01:29:27 am
Another neat link
http://www.hero-ledstore.com/blade-shaped-8led-turn-light-only-2pk-p-1744.html
Title: Re: LED lights
Post by: billy on March 18, 2012, 04:52:42 pm
Has anyone been "inside" the mirrors. I would love to mount the turn signals on the side of the mirror? Do not know about running the wires. Heck I don't even know what kind of a light I would get? any ideas?