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Main Forum => General Discussion => Topic started by: Tarnold on January 25, 2020, 08:37:34 am
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Still on our first trip out. Behind the lounge chair (2552) I mounted 2 command hooks to hold rain coats or whatever. If your familiar with this, they stick good and are removable. HOWEVER I’ve now found that the vinyl wallpaper that the hook attaches to has separated from the substrate (plywood?). It hasn’t torn yet. When we get back home I’ll try shooting some headliner adhesive thru a pin hole and see if I can get the vinyl to re-stick. No more command hooks, gurrr.
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No big command hooks on the vinyl BUT you can put them on the wall between the bed and fridge on the 2552. I have four large ones up high so they are over the slide when it pulls in. We hang a pocket storage/shoe hanger on there. It rides on a folded towel over the shower when the slide is in. The hanger came with "S" hooks that link the little eyelets to the command hooks or over the shower enclosure. If we didn't use the shoe hanger we could hang coats from the command hooks.
To answer the next question, the pockets hold: 1 lb coffee can, sweetener, filters, travel coffee mugs, maps, literature, clothes pins, clip hooks (used to hang things off cabinet knobs or tree branches or even awning bars to dry), water bottle slings, and on and on. It folds flat if we ever need to store it away.
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Still on our first trip out. Behind the lounge chair (2552) I mounted 2 command hooks to hold rain coats or whatever. If your familiar with this, they stick good and are removable. HOWEVER I’ve now found that the vinyl wallpaper that the hook attaches to has separated from the substrate (plywood?). It hasn’t torn yet. When we get back home I’ll try shooting some headliner adhesive thru a pin hole and see if I can get the vinyl to re-stick. No more command hooks, gurrr.
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But if still possible, change the post title to something helpful...like 'WARNING about Command Hooks' so if people are searching for wisdom, it comes up easily. 2o2
Like this - https://www.mygrandrv.com/forum/showthread.php/3303-WARNING-on-3M-Command-Strips
3M is aware this is a problem, and states "DO NOT use with wallpaper. May not adhere well to vinyl surfaces." in their instructions...that no one but we 'wonks' read. hithere
But lets solve the current problem. Damage is done.
And regarding Headliner Adhesive - Many, if not most I have used, require a 'flash off' period to make them work. Below is the permatex headliner glue instructions-
DIRECTIONS:
1)Make sure all surfaces are clean, dry and free from any contaminates.
2)Shake can before use.
3)Turn nozzle to select spray pattern width; low, medium or high.
4)Hold can 6–8 inches from work surface and apply 2–3 uniform overlapping coats. ...
5)Allow adhesive to dry for 5 minutes, or until tacky, before setting.
and it continues.
source - https://www.permatex.com/products/specialized-maintenance-repair/body-interior-trim/permatex-body-shop-heavy-duty-headliner-carpet-adhesive/ and click on the 'instructions' tab.
By injecting it into a small, sealed space you are likely to end up with a semi-liquid blob that is impossible to clean. Also spits out a goo when pressed on.
Worst case, you find that the chemical makeup of the uncured adhesive reacts in time with the 'plastic' that covers the wall, and liquefies it. :beg Leaving you with a sticky mess that needs to be covered...somehow. :'( This is not a guess, I have been down this road both a 'the repair guy' and '.please fix what the repair guy did' guy. :lol
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/HOAAAOSwQ59Zaggb/s-l300.jpg)
Injecting clear silicone into it, then using a body filler spreader to move it around will make a fine adhesive that will cure over time. I am a big fan of 'GE Silicone 2', it has served me well.
I try to inject the silicone as far as feasible from the access hole and work the excess back towards it and out. Then clean the exterior surface of excess uncured silicone with a rag moistened with white vinegar or isopropyl alcohol. Rub carefully! You dont have to get it 'squeaky clean'. The little bit left will easily rub off with a cloth after cure.
Leave it alone to cure, don't keep checking to see if it is hard yet. Wait a week.
Hope this helps.
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Ok, added to title. Area affected is about the size of a slice of bread. Thought the straw on an adhesive could get all around where it needs to be. Have some left over from fixing grandsons headliner
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Ok, added to title. Area affected is about the size of a slice of bread. Thought the straw on an adhesive could get all around where it needs to be. Have some left over from fixing grandsons headliner
If you can get it to offgas, sure! Thats the rub..... needs to breathe.
Thats a big lift. Maybe try a hairdryer on the area to 'revive' what glue is there and press it back? Worth a try. I would not use a hot air gun, but a hairdryer on low. Press the paper back on at first, dont rub it. Rubbing will stretch and wrinkle. If/when it sticks, then rub.
Or take a deep breath, slit it with a razor to allow venting, spray headliner glue, let it offgas, and finish as above. Its OK to direct the stream of air from a hairdryer on low to help it cure. Especially if its humid. .
Good Luck! :)(:
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Here is our solution.... With pictures
https://forum.phoenixusarv.com/index.php?topic=2867.msg23520#msg23520