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Main Forum => General Discussion => Topic started by: stanclem on October 10, 2019, 11:22:29 pm
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Does anyone know the color names of the decals on the 2004 2350?
I want to touch up and/or paint to re-create the missing decals on my PC.
Thanks,
Stan
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Hi Stan,
Call Carol at Phoenix. She will have the exact answers you seek. While on the phone with her, ask her what new decals would cost. You never know....she just might have the right answer for that one.
Ron Dittmer
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Thanks, Ron.
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Does anyone know the color names of the decals on the 2004 2350?
I want to touch up and/or paint to re-create the missing decals on my PC.
Thanks,
Stan
Custom colors ;)
https://forum.phoenixusarv.com/index.php?topic=3303.msg27876#msg27876
https://forum.phoenixusarv.com/index.php?topic=3634.msg31311#msg31311
The 2000-2006 style OEM decals were N/A when I tried to order them from Carol Simms at Phoenix almost 4 years ago. If you can work with an RV vinyl graphics shop to reproduce the original layout it's a lot cheaper and simpler than paint, but why not choose your own colors since they can't faithfully 100% reproduce the original details and colors anyway.
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Thanks, Calcruiser.
The links are helpful, too.
I'm thinking I may just either get close or go with complementary colors.
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Restomod (exactly)
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For anyone else looking, Carol gave me the colors I needed.
They are Oxford Blue and Glacier Blue (color code BASF 12822).
Thanks to Carol at Phoenix.
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Good Looking ride!
That is a 2004 model 2350? Looks a lot bigger than my 2006 2350. Like a few feet longer. (WH) Those stripes work wonders!
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Nice 2551. Is that an E350?
It came from the factory like that, no decals on the furnace and water heater covers (possibly because they would get baked?).
A search for images of 2004 Phoenix Cruisers turns up quite a few (more than 2006), but they used the same decals.
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The picture I posted above is from the 2004 Phoenix USA company website. It looks just like mine except for the faded decals on my PC.
It is a 2004 2350.
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The picture I posted above is from the 2004 Phoenix USA company website. It looks just like mine except for the faded decals on my PC.
It is a 2004 2350.
D'oh!
Looks like Calcruiser also thought that was your ride. I should have known quicker that it wasnt a 2350.. :-[
tymote
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This is the one we bought.
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Nice find 2o2
Does it have 3 overhead cabinets in the front cap, or a cutout cab roof? I hung a 21” tv from the ps cabinet behind the 3rd seat and put 2 huge sliding drawer type plastic bins in the original center tv cabinet behind the roll up door. I also appreciate the locations of the furnace and fresh water tank that make the 03-04 models the 2350 storage champs.
A fresh new Monroe SC2955 steering stabilizer will be the best $35 and 20 minutes ever spent on your
Phoenix Cruiser. If you want to go any further with handling mods bolt on a Hellwig 7085 rear sway bar and thank Mr. Ron Dittmer.
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I also appreciate the locations of the furnace and fresh water tank that make the 03-04 models the 2350 storage champs.
If you want to go any further with handling mods bolt on a Hellwig 7085 rear sway bar and thank Mr. Ron Dittmer.
The placement of the furnace and fresh water tank in our 2007 is like the earlier 2350s. You are right in that makes them storage champs. But it comes at a sacrifice to handling.
Every E350 chassis Ford made prior to 2008 never came with any kind of rear stabilizer bar. If you have one in back, it was added after the fact. So if you own a 2007 or older E350 chassis, look underneath in back. If you don't have one, you will surely want to get one. A rear heavy duty Helwig does wonders.
And as for the wimpy poorly designed front stabilizer bar of the same era (with end grommets) is concerned, replacing that one with a heavy duty Helwig makes another big improvement in handling. If you do nothing else but those two changes, you will have covered much.
When your current shocks get tired and worn, replace them with heavy duty Bilstein shocks and then you made another significant improvement.
The E350 chassis was used for the shortest PC models which by design have poor ratios of wheel base to over-all length. The suspension upgrades I mentioned combat that condition fairly well.
It seems model 2552 with the E450 chassis has the ideal aspect ratio. With the improved OEM Ford stabilizer bars introduced in 2008, handling issues are minimal by comparison to unmodified 2007 and older E350 PCs.
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This is the one we bought.
Good Looking Ride! I like the brushbar up front. Bet it makes the others move over! Any chance of a 'head on' pic? tymote
:-[
And as usual, the topic drifts. :lol I am a lone voice here, and on nice Florida roads, so PLEASE take my comments with that caveat.
You can put a whole bunch of band-aids on the chassis and improve its handling. I did an engineered approach, and determined the front end was too high and 'over sprung'. Scroll down to the bottom of this link for the latest. https://forum.phoenixusarv.com/index.php?topic=3714.45;last_msg=32993
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Front, side and rear views of our 2350.
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GREAT looking ride! 2o2
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Hi stanclem,
2004 was a transition year for every Phoenix Cruiser model, and I see you are on the "improved" side of the equation. The integrated spare tire rear wall unit replaced the previous design that was more susceptible to leaking seam work. The improved rear wall also has storage, integrated LED lighting, and it simply looks more refined.
Here is the previous rear wall.
(https://res.cloudinary.com/outdoorsy/image/upload/v1537104769/p/rentals/94215/images/rrrnkzebwbxz27wth1cd.png)
(https://carscoms.com/img/2003-phoenix-cruiser-2550-class-c-motorhome-with-slide-super-clean-no-reserve-273140820658/3.jpg)
Here is yours for comparison.
(https://forum.phoenixusarv.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3830.0;attach=6750;image)
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03 2350 restomod
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Carol’s B&B is looking good 2o2
Your sig says tan interior? That’s a nice and uncommon color combination.
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The full body paint graphics have been what I refer to as "Ocean Surf" since at least 2007 because I have a touch of it on my 2007. I wonder what the next artistic trend will be.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/2631/3743986551_b13566eded_z.jpg)
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Ron, I hope it’s less old geezer swirl even though I’m old. I understand it’s a lot of surface area but these graphic swirls are ugly to start and stickers for crying out loud. Sheesh. I’d prefer one solid color, probably white in full body paint over stickers or swirls. I’ve seen many haulmark super c in solid white and they actually look good even with the huge surface area.
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I wonder what the next artistic trend will be?
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/810RiMbfYfL._AC_SL1500_.jpg)
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Ron, I hope it’s less old geezer swirl even though I’m old. I understand it’s a lot of surface area but these graphic swirls are ugly to start and stickers for crying out loud. Sheesh. I’d prefer one solid color, probably white in full body paint over stickers or swirls.
'Old Geezer Swirls ' roflol Thats a kind description. I am eagerly looking forward to having ours one color... someday... it looks SO classy. I think CalCruiser's look is a close second. I Do prefer the swooshes over this... :beg
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_fit,f_auto,g_center,pg_1,q_60,w_740/qeoriumpu2fpop3yul3m.jpg)
Our sister blog, Jezebel, investigated this a few months ago and it seems like manufacturers don’t really have a good reason for the swooshes. Chris Barth, the Senior Director of Product Development at the RV manufacturer Jayco said, “Nobody understands the swooshes and the sweeps on the outside,” adding, “That’s the way we’ve always done it.”
link to article - https://jalopnik.com/rv-graphics-are-the-fucking-worst-1840908108
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Primordial swoosh? What were they thinking (WH)
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Ron, I hope it’s less old geezer swirl even though I’m old. I understand it’s a lot of surface area but these graphic swirls are ugly to start and stickers for crying out loud. Sheesh. I’d prefer one solid color, probably white in full body paint over stickers or swirls. I’ve seen many haulmark super c in solid white and they actually look good even with the huge surface area.
Interesting.
FYI: The only graphics on our PC are the words (PHOENIX CRUISER & .com) The 3 color graphics is paintwork. I have no idea how it is done, but it's painted with perfection. The line work is laser-like, very clean with a very smooth transition.
From the day I saw the 2007 PC brochure front cover, I thought it was great and I still love it on our PC. We really wanted the green version of the same (to coordinate with our green interior) but at the time Phoenix could not present a photograph of the green color, so we went with the safe choice gray per the 2007 front cover.
Since then, the "Ocean Surf" has gotten more and more busy. I don't mean to insult anyone here, but I don't care for it.
I always thought it would be a smart choice to get the entire house portion of the rig painted the same color white as the original factory paint of the Ford Cab. Such a full body paint job (minus the Ford van portion) should be quite affordable, and most importantly, it will hold up to the elements and look new for so many more years than raw gelcoat & plastics. It will be very easy to clean and wax and the plastics will be UV protected. Then add a few mild graphics if you so desire to add a little something to break up the all white rig. If we did not like our full body paint job, this would have been my #2 choice. Phoenix does not officially offer it, but I am sure they would come up with a nicely discounted price.
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Ron, to me it’s not a question of by doing swirls in paint being better than stickers. Of course stickers are never going to be as good as paint. It’s the swirl designs themselves. The quote Volk pulled out of a hat (thank you Volk kindly) says it all. The swirls are just what they’ve always done. Well I don’t want my Grandma’s curtains in my home either and I’m a Grandpa many times over. Just because I’m well into Geezerdom doesn’t mean I want to scream it to the world at 62 mph 😳! It’s time for the young minds to come up with new design ideas.
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SWAT Team or limo ??
https://www.rvt.com/Phoenix-Cruiser-2552-4X4-2020-Garfield-MN-ID9815083-UX77891
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SWAT Team or limo ??
https://www.rvt.com/Phoenix-Cruiser-2552-4X4-2020-Garfield-MN-ID9815083-UX77891
Hmmm, Yes indeed a SWAT truck, but they messed up. The "Phoenix Cruiser" name needs to be replaced with S.W.A.T.
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I wonder how the 4x4 rides? This one appears to only have one AC unit. With the dark color that’s going to be an issue but I do like the look. Also I noticed it has a central vacuum which kind of baffles me. Small area to clean and limited storage for the hoses as well as the vacuum unit itself. Or are they much smaller than I imagine? I see it has a rear spare tire as well. I must be mistaken in my memory. I thought they got rid of the rear tire mounted on the back? I must be thinking of another manufacturer.
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SWAT Team or limo ??
https://www.rvt.com/Phoenix-Cruiser-2552-4X4-2020-Garfield-MN-ID9815083-UX77891
WOW! Classy looking rig. I see limo more than SWAT. Needs a betetr front bumper treatment IMO.
(https://cdn2.rvt.com/photos2/5083/9815083/9815083_1.jpg)
@Joseph - Funny, the Vac is on my shortlist for Mrs V, by recent request. She is always sweeping at festivals. I am leaning more towards a hidden shop vac and a 'shove it back in the hole' 13' hose rather than outlets.
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I see it has a rear spare tire as well. I must be mistaken in my memory. I thought they got rid of the rear tire mounted on the back? I must be thinking of another manufacturer.
The spare tire compartment is still an available option when special-ordering as this one certainly was.
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I wonder what the next artistic trend will be.
Thor Style ?
(https://cdn1.rvtrader.com/v1/media/607537de55c4f251da2ed377.jpg)
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Thor Style ?
(https://cdn1.rvtrader.com/v1/media/607537de55c4f251da2ed377.jpg)
Wow! Good find. 2o2
Evolution of the stripes...
Thats Pixar style. Note the 'eyebrows' on the cap for the eventual adding of windshield mounted eyes... roflol
Just get the sunshade!
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0379/9482/3819/products/custom-car-auto-sunshade-mater-hd-gh1381909-ss-auto-sunshade-57x275-281576_2000x.jpg)
Mater approved!
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f7/Mater_%28Cars%29.png)
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Hi stanclem,
2004 was a transition year for every Phoenix Cruiser model, and I see you are on the "improved" side of the equation. The integrated spare tire rear wall unit replaced the previous design that was more susceptible to leaking seam work. The improved rear wall also has storage, integrated LED lighting, and it simply looks more refined.
Here is the previous rear wall.
(https://res.cloudinary.com/outdoorsy/image/upload/v1537104769/p/rentals/94215/images/rrrnkzebwbxz27wth1cd.png)
(https://carscoms.com/img/2003-phoenix-cruiser-2550-class-c-motorhome-with-slide-super-clean-no-reserve-273140820658/3.jpg)
Here is yours for comparison.
(https://forum.phoenixusarv.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3830.0;attach=6750;image)
Ron,
Thanks for the history lesson. I had no idea about the previous design. Definitely gald we landed on the "newer" side of that change.
Volkemon and CalCruiser,
Appreciate the nice comments.
Volkemon I appreciate the thorough postings you have on your mods. They have been very helpful.
I "re-furbished" the swoosh decals as some were faded and some were missing entirely. I also decided to continue the swooshes over the battery door and outside shower door on the driver side.
The silver swoosh I taped off and painted and for the navy blue swooshes on the cab doors and sides of the house I used vinyl wrap cut to pattern.
Also, the letters are from the vinyl wrap.
The decal on the rear I had made from my design by Build-a-sign in Texas. I think it was about $20 on sale.
We are looking forward to "getting out of Dodge" very soon. Got to get back "on the road again"!
Safe travels!
Stan & Carol