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Main Forum => General Discussion => Topic started by: bgolden on June 04, 2018, 07:59:35 pm
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It was ten years old ... It'll be hard finding a replacement for her, she was good.
(balloons)
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Hey there!
I found a cheap macerator replacement. CLICK HERE (http://forum.phoenixusarv.com/index.php/topic,2086.0.html) to read about it.
The only thing I might try different than my write-up covers, is to reuse the grinding blade from your original macerator instead of the blender-style blade that comes with the new macerator. I suggest this because the pump works harder with the new blade design, much harder than with the original blade design.
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On boy! Finally another post on poo! Hi Bill! why am I not surprised it's you? Haven't seen you online lately. Missed you!
Good luck with your macerator. I know you love your Phoenix (and traveling with your OWN toilet) as much as I do.
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Not sure if a 2008 is similar to the 2006 2350, but I found this to be a great replacement, and since I have the flange connection, no fabrication needed!
https://www.ebay.com/p/Amarine-made-12v-Quick-Release-RV-Mount-Macerator-Waste-Water-Pump-45-LPM-12gpm/847415452?iid=201920022810&chn=ps
I did lose the grey water bypass the factory installed, however. It is going on my 'honey do' list before next festival. Tight on room underneath, but I would really like to have a 'dual outlet' setup, macerator and conventional.
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I just recently replaced my impeller. WOW what a difference. Ron's suggestion will be next for me. Can't beat the price.
Good Luck!!
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For those of us who have the 3 inch hose manual by pass can we just use it and forget about the macerator?
Lynn
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For those of us who have the 3 inch hose manual by pass can we just use it and forget about the macerator?
Lynn
Thats what I am hoping/planning on when I add one to my 2006 2350. The macerator pump was the greatest thing when I needed to empty the tank into a port-o-let on NYE... but a pain to use the last 3 times I have used a dump station. Hoping to have the best of both worlds.
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I wish we could order a PC without the macerator and electric valves, I see no reel need for them.
Lynn
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For those of us who have the 3 inch hose manual by pass can we just use it and forget about the macerator?
Lynn
Thats what I am hoping/planning on when I add one to my 2006 2350. The macerator pump was the greatest thing when I needed to empty the tank into a port-o-let on NYE... but a pain to use the last 3 times I have used a dump station. Hoping to have the best of both worlds.
The black gate valve should only be used in an emergency...you are forcing the gear driven gate to open manually. Sorry!
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I installed a manual gate valve at the end of the unit with a cap. I open the black and grey valves as needed and clo
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Sorry about that. Hit the wrong key. I have a clear 45 degree adapter on my sewer hose which makes it nice to see what is happening.
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I wish we could order a PC without the macerator and electric valves, I see no reel need for them.
Lynn
Hi Lynn,
With our 2007, we are able to pump-dump and gravity-dump. But we do have electric valves, and given their location in our older 2350, might not be easy to convert to a manual valve sytem.
I personally appreciate both the macerator and electric valve systems. One thing I wished we had were redundant valve control switches, the extra set located in the bathroom sink cabinet. This way we could transfer gray water into the black tank from inside, most often needed during shower time. It would be nice avoiding the need to go outside to get it done at a most un-opportune time. Fortunately there are the two of us. I am usually the half-dressed one, maybe 3/4 dressed :) running outside after Irene yells "The shower is not draining".
I recently got two extra dump valve control switches. After I complete the work on my 93 year old mother's Chevy Tracker 4x4 and get it posted for sale, my focus will be our PC. Not just redundant dump valves, but also new tires with alloy wheels, new shocks, new cut-to-fit mattress, a 2nd roof vent protection cover and lesser things. It's a year of PC investment for me. I hope to get it all done before our next significant excursion.
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I'm confused, when I dump the black tank using the manual valve with 3 inch hose I first open the electric black tank valve using the electric switch, then i pull the manual valve, I then do the same with the gray tank. How does this hurt anything?
Lynn P.S. I do attach the hose first :lol
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I'm confused, when I dump the black tank using the manual valve with 3 inch hose I first open the electric black tank valve using the electric switch, then i pull the manual valve, I then do the same with the gray tank. How does this hurt anything?
Lynn P.S. I do attach the hose first :lol
You are doing nothing wrong Lynn.
It is a good idea to utilize the gray water to assist in flushing out the black tank. After the black tank is drained, close your manual valve before opening the gray tank valve and wait 30 seconds to let the gray water back-wash into the black tank. Then drain again and you're done.
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I was confused too as I was told when we bought the rig that it was designed so we could dump either way we liked. Unless something changed since 2015...
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We are on the road with our new 2552 purchased in April 2018. I am using both the Sanicon and the manual dump systems. If we have a septic connection at the campsite I usually hook up the old school 3 inch hose, open the manual valve at the back and the grey water electric valve. This allows us to take leisurely showers. I don't dump the black tank util it at least 2/3's full. Last night we pulled into a campground with only electric and water, so, before parking, I drove through the central dump station and dumped both tanks using the Sanicon system. The Sanicon is fast, clean and convenient.
I had Phoenix install an old school 3 ' hose storage tube under the coach as part of our delivery package. Earl thought it was overkill, but I like it!!!.
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We picked up our 2400 in April and I installed a storage tube for the sewer hose, If I would have known PC would install it I'd had them do it. Lack of communication on PC's part. Having a 3 inch dump valve is no good without a hose, If I order another PC I'll go through every detail and leave nothing for granted.
Lynn
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I think some of the confusion of manual vs macerator is that although one uses the 3" slinky with rhe manual gate valve, you must still open the appropriate electric valve to dump. Overiding the electric valve manually would damage the gearing. How to safely mannually open the electric valve was covered in an earlier post.
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I can't find the post that explains how to over ride the electric valve, I assume you unhook the bracket so the electric motor is unhooked, then simply pull the valve by hand?
Lynn
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The procedure was explained in topic "electric termination valves". In my rig, one would have to crawl underneath halfway the coach to operate one of the manual valves. Your coach may be different. If you cant find the topic, i will try to explain it
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I can't find the post that explains how to over ride the electric valve, I assume you unhook the bracket so the electric motor is unhooked, then simply pull the valve by hand?
Lynn
Here is the thread that Swiftboot was referring to - https://forum.phoenixusarv.com/index.php?topic=3189.msg26760#msg26760
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Though I'm new to rving I was new to the macerator and it seemed too hard to operate. I had to crawl under the motor home and I'm old for that. Plus something was leaking. So I took my 2006 PC to the shop and said put something in that's simple for me to use by myself. So the hose is stored and I hook it up to the black and then the gray. Simple. Hope I'm not missing something about dumping. Let me know. I love reading all your comments and the fact you are so willing to help each other.
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I had to crawl under the motor home and I'm old for that. Plus something was leaking. So I took my 2006 PC to the shop
Hi nwcamper,
2006 was the first year Phoenix introduced the Sanicon/macerator with electric valves along with the 2000 watt Tripp-Lite inverter with two 12V batteries. But both features were options that were not popular in 2006. Both features became standard in 2007 boosting their popularity. I also wonder if the Sanicon/macerator was setup differently in 2006 because it is very easy to access and operate on our 2007 2350. I greatly appreciate having our Sanicon/macerator. It's not as fast as the manual method, but it is a much cleaner method.
As far as your comment on leaking....ours leaked too. Ours dripped while dumping and also after dumping but always stopped soon thereafter. After eight years our original pump needed replacing so I installed a new pump and it too dripped, but I figured out to solve the dripping given I was into the project. It had to do with the force on the pump from the hanger strap. Too much force from the strap caused the dripping. Too little force and the strap was not supporting the pump adequately.
But all this means less to you than most others given you had your Sanicon system removed.
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Though I'm new to rving I was new to the macerator and it seemed too hard to operate. I had to crawl under the motor home and I'm old for that.
Hm. I have the same rig you do, and no 'under coach' adventures needed to use the macerator. My process is- (after getting the macerator hose ready and TAKE THE PLUG OFF THE END OF IT :lol )
1) open black water valve with electric switch
2) Run macerator until it sounds like all effluent is drained.
3) Close black water valve.
4) open grey water valve with switch
5) run macerator until done
6)close grey valve, rinse end of hose, put away
A bit late, but I wonder as to why you needed to crawl under. Glad your new setup works for you. The Macerator saved me driving 200 miles home with full tanks new years day. Handy port-o-let was 'willing and able' to take my load. 2o2