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Title: PC Weight Label
Post by: Telecom on October 07, 2017, 12:57:13 pm
I own a 2014 PC 2910T and trying to find the manufacturer's weight label in the coach?  Anyone know where PC puts this label?
Title: Re: PC Weight Label
Post by: Ron Dittmer on October 07, 2017, 01:34:06 pm
On our 2007 PC2350, the weight sticker used to be on the inside of the lower-right galley cabinet door but I moved it to the inside of a cabinet door above the sink because I reconfigured the lower cabinet to bigger drawers.  This is the sticker.
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Title: Re: PC Weight Label
Post by: Sarz272000 on October 07, 2017, 02:25:42 pm
Yellow sticker inside passenger side cab door.

Ron
Title: Re: PC Weight Label
Post by: Ron Dittmer on October 07, 2017, 02:34:16 pm
Ah yes!  There is another sticker located in the driver's side door jamb.  Actually many other stickers.
Title: Re: PC Weight Label
Post by: Telecom on October 07, 2017, 04:03:33 pm
Thanks to all for the replies.  The photo of the Motorhome Weight Information sticker is what I have been looking for since this is what I have always seen in my other motorhomes.  Looked in all of these locations and no stickers.  Sent an email to Earl with my VIN so maybe he can provide a copy of the weight sticker.
Title: Re: PC Weight Label
Post by: ragoodsp on October 07, 2017, 05:03:57 pm
Stop looking....small yellew strip on passenger door jam is all you will find
Title: Re: PC Weight Label
Post by: Telecom on October 08, 2017, 08:55:44 am
The thin, yellow strip on the passenger door jam is the only thing "specific" to the CCC of the 2910T.  I assumed federal laws required a more informative weight sticker to be posted but will have to live with the cryptic, scant info on this yellow sticker.  It claims the CCC is 2,016 lbs and then states that the weight of water, occupants, possessions and hitch weight must be considered as CCC but says nothing regarding gasoline and LP weights. Sure wish Phoenix USA had declared the dry weight of the coach.  Will head to the CAT scales with full LP tank, fuel, 10 gallons of water, all other fluids and possessions to confirm I'm not exceeding the coach's 14,600 lbs GVW. Nor exceeding the rear axle rating of 9,600 lbs or the front axle rating of 5,000 lbs.  Thanks again to all for your input.
Title: Re: PC Weight Label
Post by: Sarz272000 on October 08, 2017, 09:15:53 am
Please post your weights. Pay attention to drivers side rear weight.

Thanks

Ron
Title: Re: PC Weight Label
Post by: Free2RV on October 08, 2017, 09:18:42 am
We used the CAT scales with our class A to get several different weights to see how the coach sat, left to right, on each axle, and in total. It gave us a real good idea (with a normal load) where the weight was. It's worth the minimal cost to have this information. We plan to do the same with the PC. Good choice to do it!  2o2
Title: Re: PC Weight Label
Post by: Ron Dittmer on October 08, 2017, 10:22:31 am
Here our 2007 E350 chassis,  PC2350 was loaded up carrying the most ever on a trip.  Combined axle weight was okay, but the distribution of weight exceeded the rating of the rear axle by a small amount.
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Title: Re: PC Weight Label
Post by: ragoodsp on October 08, 2017, 10:53:28 am
I hate to say it but I think you are going to be surprised and not pleasantly so, The Cat's will tell the story.
Title: Re: PC Weight Label
Post by: Free2RV on October 08, 2017, 12:12:50 pm
I hate to say it but I think you are going to be surprised and not pleasantly so, The Cat's will tell the story.
What are the numbers on your 3100? Was your fuel tank full and did you have anything in your holding tanks when you got your coach weighed? Thanks.
Title: Re: PC Weight Label
Post by: dickreid1 on October 08, 2017, 01:04:18 pm
Axel weights can conceal overweight situations.  Corner weights tell you the real story of how your coach was built.  We were shocked when we first found out about our corner weights.
Title: Re: PC Weight Label
Post by: Free2RV on October 08, 2017, 01:22:36 pm
Axel weights can conceal overweight situations.  Corner weights tell you the real story of how your coach was built.  We were shocked when we first found out about our corner weights.
That's what we are planning to do.
Title: Re: PC Weight Label
Post by: ragoodsp on October 08, 2017, 02:04:09 pm
Telecom....my 3100 fully loaded was within 900lbs of max.  I like a little more safety zone, the front was very close to max as I recall.  Best of luck. 
Title: Re: PC Weight Label
Post by: Free2RV on October 08, 2017, 02:30:26 pm
Telecom....my 3100 fully loaded was within 900lbs of max.  I like a little more safety zone, the front was very close to max as I recall.  Best of luck.  
Thanks for the info! I appreciate it.
Title: Re: PC Weight Label
Post by: Telecom on October 08, 2017, 06:12:59 pm
Great info everyone and looking forward to getting my coach weighed. Do most commercial, certified scales offer corner weighing option or do I need to call around to find this capability?  Price is of no concern when safety is the issue.

Speaking of safety, currently have Michelin LT225/75R16E tires, fours years old.  Assuming the coach is very close to the weight limit should I upgrade the tires?  Yes, I can remove a few items and might save 100 lbs but I don't have lots of extras in the coach.

Title: Re: PC Weight Label
Post by: keelhauler on October 09, 2017, 08:14:41 am
Most scales only do front & back. I hope to find one to do all 4.
Those are axel ratings not tire ratings. You put more air pressure into the tires, tire load vs air pressure charts are available on line.
Title: Re: PC Weight Label
Post by: ragoodsp on October 09, 2017, 09:28:50 am
You can/could weigh each side of your coach separately and get the four corner weights.  The issue with most Cat scales that I have seen is they have like a ten inch curb along the sides so you can not easily straddle.  best on luck
Title: Re: PC Weight Label
Post by: jatrax on October 09, 2017, 10:56:58 am
I got mine weighed at two different CAT scales and neither would do all four corners, only the axles.  However, in Oregon they leave the weigh station scales on all the time and there is one located only a few miles from home.  I stopped by on a Sunday afternoon and with a little help from my copilot found it quite easy to get all four corners.

You might check to see if your state scales are left on and whether they permit use when they are not operating.
Title: Re: PC Weight Label
Post by: Telecom on October 09, 2017, 07:45:34 pm
Ragoodsp, had it right when he said "I hate to say it but I think you are going to be surprised and not pleasantly so, The Cat's will tell the story."

I just returned from the CATS scale near Lockhart, TX and sure was not pleasantly surprised.  Front axle 4440 lbs and rear axle 9320 lbs for a total of 13,760 lbs; max capacity for the E-450 is 14,600.  Just me in the coach (6' at 211 lbs), full 55 gallons of fuel, less than half tank of LP, 15 gallons of water, empty grey/black tanks, fully equipped kitchen but zero food, lightly equipped bath (4 bath towels, 2 hand and 4 wash clothes), one set of bedding for the rear queen bed and one set for the sofa bed, two light lawn chairs, small tool case, and a few odds and ends. No clothes, computers/phones/chargers, DVD, video games, reading material

Must add the wife and two young grand kids which I estimated at 250 lbs; she refuses to divulge her weight. Plus tow bar and toad hitch weight at 500 lbs. Food and incidentals estimated at 150 so I'm overweight.  I know I can throw away the bedspread and throw pillows on the rear bed, rearview mirror on windshield (loss of compass and thermometer), old Rand McNally Atlas and buy my Irish whiskey in half pint bottles instead of the gallon bottle for a weight savings of 10 lbs.  If wife and I lose 20 pounds each we have saved a total of 50 lbs but the coach is still over weight.

Title: Re: PC Weight Label
Post by: PC on October 10, 2017, 03:25:30 pm
We were asked to come fully loaded. Full water tank. Full gas tank. We went the week before we left for Alaska – so we were thinking we’d be on the heavy side. We were able to move some heavier items in the back to equalize the weight. In retrospect, the unevenness made total sense between the way the 2551 is laid out and where we had placed our heavier items. It was very interesting and informative!


Title: Re: PC Weight Label
Post by: jas on October 10, 2017, 07:04:58 pm
Check out my post on the 2910T Aug. 2016 on the overloaded rear axel  JAS