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Main Forum => General Discussion => Topic started by: Benny820 on September 17, 2014, 04:16:28 pm
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Hi. Does anyone know the actually length of the 2450 model. I know it's supposedly 1 foot longer than the 2350 but in previous threads I see where there is questions on length from what the factory says and real world on some units. :help. tymote
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I shall get my measuring tape out after dinner and check!
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Thanks. Carol, How do you like the 2450? Do you have the Ford chassis, I see in the brochure that both front sits in the sprinter turn was wondering if Ford is the same. tymote. Tim
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Hello Tim,
I am not a very exacting measurerer, but using a yardstick type of contraption I came up with 24 feet 11 inches bumper to bumper, and then the spare tire sticks out a few inches beyond that, above the rear bumper.
I am loving my 2450 and am really happy they came up with the extra foot before I put in my order, as the extra storage space is great. I do have the ford chassis, and only the passenger seat swivels. In my layout, that is fine, though, since I have the dinette behind the driver's seat so it would do no good to swivel anyhow. The extra foot, by the way, is between the axles, making the wheelbase 170 inches, vs. the 158 inches of the 2350. I have not driven anything else, but it should count for something that I am a novice, and I am finding the handling of the rig to be totally without issue and a lovely ride!
Carol
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Tim
We have a 2012 2551 (Ford Chassis) and had the factory install the swivel option on the driver's seat. The only requirement was to have a slide and no power seat.
Here is a picture of our seats. It is nice to have the extra seat and a little more open space.
(http://forum.phoenixusarv.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=681.0;attach=2141;image)
Barry
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tymote. Thanks for the info. My wife really likes the 2450, " happy wife- happy life ". Carol, what kind of gas mileage are you getting with the 2450? Tim
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Tim,
I think a 2450 is a great coach, I just wanted you to see that you can swivel both chairs in a Ford chassis. Our 2551 is built on a Ford.
Barry
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Thanks tymote Barry-Sue for the pics of the seats, we are going to see if we can order that way, good idea. metoo metoo (exactly)
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We took delivery of a 2015 2450 a month ago. I just finished installing super springs on the rear suspension and am very pleased with the results. We added them to our previous Motorhome a 24' Born Free. The Super Springs raised the back end 1 3/4". Prior to installing them our back end was slightly lower than the front end, our Coach is built on the E 350.
We experienced a much smoother ride on our Born Free and expect an improved ride on our Phoenix as well.............we shall see.
We are VERY happy with our Coach and the folks at Phoenix. "We have officially switched camps from Born Free to Phoenix" :)
I would like to post a few pictures of our Coach in the near future.
Dave
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Tim,
I am getting 11 to 12 mpg when I behave and stick to around 55 mph.
Barry-Sue,
Your front area looks great with both chairs swiveled like that!
Dave,
Born Free is a really nice outfit. That's quite a complement to PC that you converted!
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Hi. Dave, you mentioned you recently P/ U your new 2450 last month, it sounds like your happy. From what I have been reading many people have been upgrading the suspension system. If possible could you post some pics. tymote (pp) (pp)
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Sure, are you looking for a picture of the actual super spring or the coach? I measured our Phoenix bumper to bumper it measures exactly 25'.
Dave
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Dave, Congradulatios on your new baby.
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Time to update your profile to "Owner is YES". :)(:
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Changed it- thanks Tom!
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soshelp soshelp. Ok,next question, Can anyone tell me with the 2350 model can a third passenger travel with you? Is there sit belts for either the chair behind the pass. Seat or the dinette? Thanks again. tymote. Tim
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Tim
We had a 2008 2350, with slide with a couch and, yes there were seat belts for the couch!
Sue
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Welcome to the forum. Our 2010, 2350 has seat belts in the passenger chair and on the sofa.
Rose
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I believe it was in 1984, maybe 1985 when the RV industry was required to supply seat belts for every "official" seating position inside all motor homes. If you bought a used rig without seat belts, most likely the previous owner removed them. All PC dinettes, couches, and fixed individual seats have seat belts.
Regarding the later day Euro chair in many newer PCs including model 2350, it is not an "official" seating position. It is not attached to the motor home for use when the rig is in motion. It has a simple storing clamp to prevent it from moving around while the rig is driven. Therefore it does not have seat belts. If considering any PC with a Euro chair, you will have to replace it with a fixed chair typically mounted on a pedestal, bolted through the floor of the motor home. If ordering a new PC, just ask the factory to do that for you, I believe at no extra charge. I do not recommend the low back chair called a barrel chair. Our rig originally came with that one but I replaced it with a 3rd matching captain seat for improved comfort and safety for a 3rd passenger along with great comfort when parked. The low back barrel chair is not good for relaxing.
Here are pictures of our 3rd occupant captain seat with seat belts. The pedestal it mounts to swivels and slides out from the center.
In this orientation I often slide the seat forward, (away from the wall) recline and use the dinette bench seat cushion as an ottoman.
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8518/8462453675_5d79315fcc_b.jpg)
My wife demonstrating one of many positions, here to watch a movie in comfort.
When sliding the seat in this position but into the isle, that passenger can look out the front window much better. Their feet end up in between the two front seats.
(https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6173/6191936126_12d4e1ae89_b.jpg)
For reference, here is a Euro chair. Note the base is a metal ring that is not attached to the floor.
This seat is NOT to be used when driving.
(http://www.phoenixusarv.com/albums/2350_models/2012%20Units/slides/20110824_43.jpg)
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Ron tymote, the picture really help.My wife likes the fact that the chair swivels and reclines, looks nice. Thanks. Bev and Tim. :)(:
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Ron tymote, the picture really help.My wife likes the fact that the chair swivels and reclines, looks nice. Thanks. Bev and Tim. :)(:
You are very welcome!
Just so you know, people with the Euro chair rave over it's comfort. If you'll never need that seat for a 3rd passenger, you might consider the Euro chair. It is more friendly with a slide out than without like ours. The extra floor space created from the slide out, allows the Euro chair to be moved about the cabin.
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Yes to both questions.
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Pictures of our 2015 2450
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More pictures of our 2450
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Sorry for all the posts......trying to get the pictures to the right size...last two!
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Really nice pictures... I adore all the homey touches!
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Oh so nice a rig you have there.
You do have me scratching my head. I expected the slide-out to have a pantry along with the couch. Where did the extra foot go? Into a bigger couch?
My head gears are turning dangerously again. I'd like that extra length to go into a longer bed for more outdoor storage, and also to work with a bigger bathroom. I wonder if Phoenix could make the bath that much bigger.
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Thanks! Yesterday we had a customer here at our shop with a 2010 2551 my wife and my daughter said "dad there is somebody here with a PC!!"
Wow, I had a great visit with them, very nice folks needless to say it wasn't long before I found myself standing in their coach talking about our Cruisers. :)
Ron, we decided to get a 60" sofa instead of the 54" and also the small night stand with the lamp. We really like it for sleeping with the added 6":
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Thanks! Yesterday we had a customer here at our shop with a 2010 2551 my wife and my daughter said "dad there is somebody here with a PC!!"
Wow, I had a great visit with them, very nice folks needless to say it wasn't long before I found myself standing in their coach talking about our Cruisers. :)
Ron, we decided to get a 60" sofa instead of the 54" and also the small night stand with the lamp. We really like it for sleeping with the added 6":
Oh yes, I do see the end table tucked in there, a very nice touch with more relaxing room with the longer couch too.
I wonder if Phoenix could have a dinette option made of a table and a pair of recliners, but maybe only in a no-slide to gain enough wall space for the needed room.
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Ron, enclosed is a better picture of the sofa and night stand.
Dave
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Beautiful interior. Just the colors we'd get....